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  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

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  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

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  Lisa Rose, with the twenty first century understanding of the whole DNA coding within the human genome, it is recognised that we share about 50% of our genes... the bits which determine what living things are ...with herbaceous plants such as bananas, delphiniums and strawberries. (That’s why I use the name Half banana)

  What it tells us is that each animal, plant, fish or fungus is not a distinct creation but are variations on a slowly unravelling line of inheritance, a part of a continuum. The degree of difference between species determines their closeness or distance of relatedness. So the strawberry for example shares the same family traits as the rose but is not so closely related to the delphinium so they have different ‘recent’ ancestors. Apes share something like 96 to 98.5% of their genes with humans. The pattern is compared to a family tree or pedigree with new families branching off at intervals over time.

  Perhaps surprisingly, most family lines that have ever existed have died off and become extinct leaving only those alive today most suited to their environments. These developments having taken place over literally millions of years. Life in all its many forms has proved to be a death and destruction derby where only the winners get to breed.

  In essence the fact that we share 50% of our genes with bananas and strawberries means that Darwin’s idea that life has evolved; is the truthful account of the reason for our existence.
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  Another Scientist Misquoted - October 2015 Awake - Scientist Response

  by FadingTruth in

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  october 2015 awake article writes:.

  this experiment led jeffrey h. schwartz, a professor of anthropology, to conclude that while adaptation may help a species survive under changing circumstances, it is not creating anything new.. email response from scientist to reddit user myxomatosis_.

  reddit user u/opinionmill pointed out in another thread that they've used the quote before:.

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  The very first place I always turn to if I need a clarification on the subject of evolution is to the trusty Watchtower publications...
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  Will Adam Eve be resurrected? If not why? WT tell us.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jan. 15, 1960 wt.

  page 53.

  "since the supreme judge never makes a mistakes, there is no need for him to take under.

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  Yes Blondie the subject is the WTS viewpoint but I think a dose of reality contrasts nicely with their mumbo jumbo.
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses losing the War on Apostates

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  found this.

  http://jwalumni.org/2015/06/08/who-are-jehovahs-witnesses-september-watchtower/.

  by misha anouk on 8. june 2015 in news

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  Are JWs losing the war on apostates?

  It really does seem that in the internet battle, the apostate position is gaining more and more ground.

  Do you think that the end JW org influence will be achieved only through the net?
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  Watchtower HATES being compared to Catholic Church - but if the shoe fits...

  by Zoos in

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  remember this?.

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  well how about this?.

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  Yes LoveUni, envy is the right word since the Catholic Church even by its very name is the archetypal establishment religion.

  The Watchtower in contrast is crippled in its worldly ambitions since it can only remain a doomsday cult falsely promising the end of Catholicism and all those who do not believe in the paranoid JW doctrine.
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  Watchtower HATES being compared to Catholic Church - but if the shoe fits...

  by Zoos in

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  remember this?.

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  well how about this?.

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  Since the sign says MK Dons it must be the Milton Keynes Bowl in the English Midlands. I hope this is during the peak attendance of the public talk...

  But yes the WT derides the Catholic Church but secretly admires its confident authority. It thinks: if only the brothers and sisters would slavishly follow and contribute like the Catholics do.

  As for public exposure I think they should copy the papacy and parade around the assembly sites, all seven of them waving to the crowd in a pink Mr Whippy ice-cream van. The Pope after all manages to look like he is frozen in a block of ice.
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  Stephen Lett spouting stupidity

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  short cliphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faru4hjj7rc

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  What distorted values must exist in the Watchtower HQ to get one of the GB to speak such infantile rubbish? Surely they don't actually believe it?

  It seems to me to indicate the emergence of a new attitude or bench mark that to succeed as a JW you have to publicly demonstrate how loyal you are to the "sacred WT doctrines"... however implausible they are and however ridiculous it makes you appear.
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  Will Adam Eve be resurrected? If not why? WT tell us.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jan. 15, 1960 wt.

  page 53.

  "since the supreme judge never makes a mistakes, there is no need for him to take under.

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  Sorry chaps but there will be no resurrection taking place at any time...it's just a religious puff-ball dream.

  So whereas a general bodily resurrection remains the most remotely improbable thing ever, it is absolutely impossible to literally resurrect mythical or literary figures who never lived in the first place such as Adam and Eve or Mickey Mouse and Minnie.
  
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  Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

  was it the wts and all its crap?

  was it something you read?

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  Half banana

  Tenacious, perhaps you cling to God as if there is some mystical paternalistic force that however bad things get... you will make it to safety?

  Here is the crunch point as every atheist knows; we have only our self to rely on. This might be hurtful to contemplate for the first time having believed in God but ultimately... and unlike children... we are all alone. Realising this is the reason we could experience anxiety in letting go of our deeply cherished notion. However a great freedom and expansion of our horizons begins once we take control and responsibility for our own lives.
  

  The concept of God is a primitive myth which answered every question asked back in those days at the cradle of humanity. Times have changed and we have mainly resorted to knowledge to guide us rather than superstition. For the individual this is the big leap; to become our own person, not superstitious, not dependent, determining our own will and discovering the practical and testable answers to those things we once thought were magical. If we believe in a god we are condemned to be forever children and beholden.

  Like the Borg, it is certainly in the financial and power interests of religious bodies to gather individuals who remain infantilised and compliant in their fear and sense of obligation to an invisible and unprovable deity.

  You asked how did we individually become godless? As for me it was as diogenesister suggests; reading philosophy. As a JW and pioneering I had realised that the figure of Satan was a crude theatrical device and later the idea of God began to appear shaky but it was reading Kierkegaard (a theist) and Nietzsche (an atheist) which rapidly dissolved my belief in a god. As a suggestion; do start with a primer in the subject should you be interested. For me one of the most useful and absorbing books ever written is Bertrand Russell’s History of Western Philosophy (long but easy to read!)
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  I figured out how Animals ended up on different continents.

  by James Mixon in

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  animals made rafts out of logs that were knocked down by the great flood, i'm not.

  sure about the kangaroo it's possible his pouch could have filled up with water and he sinked and.

  how the crossed the ocean, that's something i'm working on.. then we have "if you don't believe in god you don't know right from wrong".

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  I like the rafting kangaroos idea with inflated pouches steered by platypuses and loaded with koalas, wombats and every last and sundry other marsupial. Unfortunately there are teeny weeny problems with this.

  Wombats are not noted for their open-sea navigation skills nor for that matter an ability to communicate with platypuses... and only female kangaroos have pouches. Never mind God must have only used pregnant kangaroo rafters with a special waterproof pouch seal and extra long gestation periods to give birth to males when finally back in oz. It must have been tough on the koalas getting used to the fish diet?